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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:12 am

promisingos wastedos talentos el baronio,you meaning this Idea
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:06 pm

YES! Thats him santa
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:41 pm

I'm really glad Ledesma is back! sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:06 pm

No intended for trolling, but againts Palermo he had a bad night.

I just want to say, if Ledesma has a bad night, Lazio will lose, because he is our core (?) in the middle of the park, but there is no guarantee we will win if Ledesma plays well.

As we knew, Ledesma last season performance is not really consistent, get 34 caps but only booked 1 assist, & Lazio struggled in Serie A.

I pretty sure in July he will leave us, one of reason why Lazio sent him in the pitch to keep Ledesma value. He doesnt want us.

& after we got the money from selling this guy, please to find a better midfielder, a Marek Hamsik-type.
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:22 pm

Can i ask a question ? Why the hell did he return if he`s not in the mood to play ? What a trap.. he and Baronio can marry.
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:07 pm

Cristian Ledesma opened a personal website. I had a short look, it seems nice, some nice pictures I haven't seen before.

http://www.cristianledesma.com/

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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:22 am

Sile wrote:
Cristian Ledesma opened a personal website. I had a short look, it seems nice, some nice pictures I haven't seen before.

http://www.cristianledesma.com/

Wow Sile, acctually a post that wasn't a april joke!

Btw, you guys in Zagreb seems to be taking this 1:st april thing quite serious...

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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:10 am

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Sile wrote:
Cristian Ledesma opened a personal website. I had a short look, it seems nice, some nice pictures I haven't seen before.

http://www.cristianledesma.com/

Wow Sile, acctually a post that wasn't a april joke!

Btw, you guys in Zagreb seems to be taking this 1:st april thing quite serious...

Nah, we're just bored out of our minds Very Happy

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here's Ledesma's short biography on his Lazio days as he posted on his website:

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Finalmente la Lazio, è il 2006, ritrovo Delio Rossi. Squadra per cui simpatizzavo fin dall'Argentina: stessi colori della mia Nazionale e tanti giocatori argentini che ne hanno fatto la storia (da Veron ad Almeyda, da Simeone fino a Crespo); quindi non potevo chiedere di meglio. Sono arrivato fra lo scetticismo quasi generale, ho vissuto un periodo di ambientamento non facile ma ero sicuro che sarei riuscito a farmi conoscere per quel che sono, per quello che ho da dire in campo.

Era il 10 dicembre 2006 quando è scoccata la scintilla, era il derby d'andata, il mio primo derby. Avevo finalmente a portata di mano e "di piede" la possibilità di dimostrare che ero uno "da" Lazio come giustamente si pretendeva. E' nato da quella grandissima voglia quel gol che porto nel cuore.

Da lì in poi è stato un rapporto in crescendo sebbene silenzioso, senza proclami, senza baci alla maglia o corse e capriole...sarà pure un difetto del mio carattere ombroso e chiuso, ma è il mio modo di lavorare. Io faccio parlare l'impegno sul campo.

Dunque la prima stagione è fra luci e ombre ma riesco a collezionare 33 presenze e 2 gol (nel derby come detto e a san siro contro l'Inter) e ci qualifichiamo per la Champions League.

Della seconda stagione ho dei ricordi molto forti proprio perchè mi preparavo a disputare per la prima volta nella mia vita, quella competizione che si sogna fin da bambini: la Champions League. Solo l'inno mette i brividi e portare la maglia della Lazio a Madrid o ad Atene è stata una delle emozioni calcistiche più belle che abbia provato. Peccato però non aver potuto proseguire l'esperienza più a lungo in quanto non siamo riusciti poi a passare il turno. Anche in quella stagione ho collezionato 33 presenze e siglato 3 gol (di cui uno di nuovo alla Roma, dopo un recupero-lampo, in appena 20 giorni, dall'operazione al menisco).

La terza stagione alla Lazio è quella in cui mi sono sentito ormai un veterano del gruppo, ne è testimonianza il fatto di essere stato eletto vice-capitano (dopo Tommaso Rocchi) dai compagni di squadra. E' una stagione di alterne fortune, un pò difficile sul piano psicologico; più i risultati mancano più aumenta l'insicurezza del gruppo. Comunque ad un certo punto ci siamo guardati tutti in faccia e abbiamo deciso di ricompattarci e di ripartire da zero tutti insieme. E proprio da questa rinnovata mentalità di gruppo e staff tecnico è nata la cavalcata vincente in Coppa Italia che alla fine ci ha permesso di alzare il trofeo, vincendo ai rigori contro la Sampdoria.

La quarta stagione come ormai tutti sanno per me inizia in modo shoccante; mi ritrovo infatti escluso dalla spedizione in Cina per disputare la Supercoppa Italiana contro l'Inter nonostante il lasciapassare per disputare la Supercoppa fosse stata proprio quella Coppa Italia che solo 2 mesi prima avevo alzato al cielo.

E nonostante i continui complimenti del nuovo allenatore Ballardini che mi considerava il pilastro della Lazio. Salvo poi non rivolgermi più la parola al ritorno dalla Cina. Le divergenze di vedute con la società e la mancanza a mio parere di un progetto di crescita per la Lazio sono stati i motivi per cui ero amaramente disposto a lasciare la Lazio visto la delusione che provavo in quel momento. Ero molto combattuto, ma nonostante questa situazione ero naturalmente disposto a fare anche una scelta di cuore e firmare il tanto agognato rinnovo con la Lazio.

Niente di tutto ciò alla fine si è verificato (per un motivo o per l'altro) e io mi sono ritrovato ai margini sperando di domenica in domenica di poter tornare a dare il mio contributo alla Lazio.

La Lazio è la mia casa, la mia famiglia e chi mi conosce bene sa che mi sarei legato a vita a questi colori e chissà che non pensi di farlo sul serio nel prossimo futuro.

Per il momento penso solo al campo e alla difficile situazione che quest'anno vive la Lazio. Grazie al cielo e al nuovo mister Edy Reja sono potuto tornare a indossare la mia maglia e a far parlare il lavoro sul campo, sperando di tirarci fuori tutti insieme dalle cattive acque in cui attualmente navighiamo.

he speaks of his first seasons, the derby goals, the honor of being vice-captain, but he says very little about his exclusion from the squad. he says Lazio is his home and his family, and he is grateful to the heaven and Reja for being able to once again fight for the shirt, and escape these troubled water.

I was hoping for an explanation on why he insists on having that colombian-drug-smuggler-moustache but hey, I guess it wasn't one of his priorities.

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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:39 pm

Memo to Lotito - Ledesma needs talking to about a new contract. Do it now or we will lose him for nothing. And don't even think about swapping him for Floccari with your chum Preziosi at Genoa.
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:15 am

With Palermo reportedly interested, I can actually see a deal happening given how Lotito and Zamparini are buddies Crying or Very sad this would be a shame. Ledesma needs to stay. I doubt Reja doesn't want him here.
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:48 pm

they should give us pastore and we'll give ledesma (+manfreass and makinwa) Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:25 pm

zamparini would never splash the cash lotito wants cause he's a cheap bas*ard :)
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:28 pm

Bobbi wrote:
With Palermo reportedly interested, I can actually see a deal happening given how Lotito and Zamparini are buddies Crying or Very sad this would be a shame. Ledesma needs to stay. I doubt Reja doesn't want him here.

Really?? I don't think Zampa and Lotito really get on that well.

I agree Palermo would love Ledesma. Firstly, he is Rossi's man and secondly, Liverani is getting on quite a bit. Thing is, would Ledesma really want to go to Palermo?? I know they almost made CL but for me, if you ignore all the bullshit that comes from his agent's mouth, Ledesma will only go to a top top club.

I think he'll be happy to play out his contract with Lazio and join Inter or Juve for free rather than move to Palermo now.

IMO Ledesma will be at Lazio next season. Whether he stays beyond 2011 is anyone's guess. If Lotito can't clinch a renewal for whatever reason, smartest thing to do would be to start seriously sounding out long term replacements as of this mercato. Someone who can seriously control the midfield for us.

Why didn't we make a serious bid for Nicolas Lodeiro last winter FFS!!

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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:40 am

Caput Mundi wrote:
Bobbi wrote:
With Palermo reportedly interested, I can actually see a deal happening given how Lotito and Zamparini are buddies Crying or Very sad this would be a shame. Ledesma needs to stay. I doubt Reja doesn't want him here.

Really?? I don't think Zampa and Lotito really get on that well.

From what I've read in the past they are (or at least were) 'friends', to an extent. But that was a while ago, maybe their relationship has soured in recent months? scratch

Agree with you about Ledesma fitting in well at Palermo. Him and Rossi have a good history and given Liverani will retire soon he would be a good fit for them. With Pastore and Nocerino he would form a sweet midfield.

But like you I wonder if he would be keen on such a move? A while ago Genoa were interested and he didn't want such a move. IMO they are a better side than Palermo, this season was a one off. I also don't see Inter or Juventus making a bid for him this summer so I too wouldn't be surprised if played out his contract at Lazio and then left for free No

What pisses me off is that Lotito doesn't see the importance of Ledesma for our midfield. Does he not remember how well Lazio played in the first half of the season without him? I'm not saying he's brilliant, but he fits in well and does the job required of him. No one else in the current squad can match that. When he leaves what will be Lotito's solution?
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:21 am

I remember reading, a few years ago, that Zamp believed Lotito is the hardes president to do business with. Coming from a crazy man like him, it must mean Lotito is the craziest out there tongue

I think Ledesma seriously would consider a move to Palermo; Rossi is there and that would mean everything to him. But the question is wether Palermo would pay what it is that Lotito wants for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:10 am

the only problem is that ledesma and liveani cant play together so i will not be suprised if ledesma goes than liverani will be back.
liverani have another year contract with palermo and max two years he can play,lotito is stupid so he will do the job and we will have another cruz case(with big respect for fabio,but his carier is near ending and ledesma can stil play,than you can sell him and took the money)
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:58 pm

I want him to remain,but without his bastard agent...
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:33 am

his agent is a bitch no doubt, but i really dont think hes the main problem.

ledesma is just sitting on his ass HOPING for a call from lolito only thinking about staying here. contract will expire next year so its really not fair for the lad.

he has stated a million times that his first option is staying with us.

IF hes not shown that he is wanted his mind will go elsewhere
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:26 am

light in the end of the tunnel; lotito says mauri and ledesma will get calls at the end of the week for contract renewal
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:19 am

I thought Mauri already renewed.
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:31 am

there is an agreement, but they never put pen on paper that i recall
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:32 am

Roman_Eagle wrote:
I thought Mauri already renewed.

Maybe he'll get one more (without a lenght) ... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:45 am

martinese wrote:
Roman_Eagle wrote:
I thought Mauri already renewed.

Maybe he'll get one more (without a lenght) ... Very Happy


it won't be a first :)
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:54 pm

why is no one commenting on our huge huge possibility of loosing ledesma.

if ledesma leaves we are screwed
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PostSubject: Re: Cristian Daniel Ledesma   Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:56 pm

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/lazio/?action=read&idnet=bGFsYXppb3NpYW1vbm9pLml0LTEzMjIx

Ledesma wants 1,8 mill€ salary, Lotito offers 1mill€ upfront with a possibility of bonuses of 500,000= 1.5 mill. And they have locked horns.

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