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Caxi
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PostSubject: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:11 am

a simple question for you, based on a recent Irish sporting incident.

a gaelic footballer here (not sure how much you guys know about Gaelic Football, but it is very similar to Aussie Rules, if that helps) was given a 6 month ban for knocking the referees cards and notebook out of his hands while he was being sent off.

the player is incredibly high profiled. it would be like Alesandro Nesta for us back in the old days, he was the captain of the best team in the country.

let's say Rocchi did the same thing in a football match, or any captain of any Serie A side. do you think that player would deserve to be banned for 6 months, an entire season?
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:01 am

Doesn't matter who does it. And such a player should pay even more attention on what he does as he sets an example to other and younger people. So the punishment should be the same for me or for Rocchi...
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:08 pm

I think six months for that is too harsh. Don't you have it on video? YouTube or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:20 pm

unfortunately not, there are no videos of the incident that I can find on youtube, I will keep searching and if I find the link, I'll post it.

for me, it is incredibly harsh, yes, a referee shouldn't be disrespected, but it would be a 4-8 game ban in football in most leagues, not a ban that ends your season.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:29 pm

ok, here is the incident that got a 6 month ban for the player in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raDBPABAN-8
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:47 pm

My husband who's sport journalist is agree with the punishment ... but me Very Happy ... I think is too much 8 games would be enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:51 pm

That's a tough one, I think six months is really harsh but he did lose it, plus we don't know what he might have said to the ref.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:20 pm

After seeing the video... I think the punishment is fair, probably he told something nice to the referee too.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:42 pm

a 3 month ban is the necessary punishment for interfering with the referee. it is the rule.

however, he was given an extra 3 months for his behaviour tpwards the officials.

I've seen worse abuse getting a lesser punishment, but it does raise the issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:50 pm

Six months for that is ridiculous... Anyway, does anyone remember how many matches Di Canio got when he pushed down the referee while playing for Sheffield Wednesday? Would be nice to compare the punishments in this incident and in Di Canio's incident. Here's a video of Di Canio pushing the referee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFVuHrwgyY

By the way, it's funny to see when Paolo scares the Arsenal player when he is on his way out of the pitch Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:20 pm

Henrik wrote:
Six months for that is ridiculous... Anyway, does anyone remember how many matches Di Canio got when he pushed down the referee while playing for Sheffield Wednesday? Would be nice to compare the punishments in this incident and in Di Canio's incident. Here's a video of Di Canio pushing the referee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFVuHrwgyY

By the way, it's funny to see when Paolo scares the Arsenal player when he is on his way out of the pitch Very Happy

Di Canio got 9 matches for that. Some called for a life ban. Di Canio is a legend though, so that would be a joke

in Australia, some idiot hit a ref (not very hard) and got a 6 month ban, missing the olympics. cant say I care.

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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:36 pm

I was thinking that Zamorano .. the great Ivan Zamorano Very Happy left the football after be punished for 11 games.
He hit the referee in the final that Colo Colo lost with Cobreloa. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:54 pm

there are a few things that are interesting with my case:

1. players punch other players all the time and they only get 2/3 match bans.
2. all our footballers are part-timers, this guy is a teacher.
3. this was his first game as captain of the team who has won the top honour for the last 2 years.

a very high profile ban, yes, when you compare it to Di Canio, it is nothing, although, if it were me, I wouldn't have suspended Di Canio at all cheers

this suspension is causing huge problems in Ireland because of the profile of the player and the severity of the ban.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:54 pm

That was abusive, and he totally deserves his punishment, specially for a high profile.
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PostSubject: Re: Discipline In Sport   Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:45 am

Well perhaps 6 months is a bit harsh.... maybe like 4 months - or till the end of the year, would have been more appropriate in my opinion, considering how much some footballers are punished for similar actions.
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