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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:45 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:49 pm

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The soccer player will arrive on loan for 800 mila euro, but Lotito will be able to exercise the right of redeems, whose figure has been already fixed to 8 million.
Just perfect. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:20 pm

I'm happy that we sign Matuzalem, but I am a bit worried about the future amounts we fix...until now we have 15 millions to pay for Zarate and now another 8 to pay for Matuzalem...that's 23 millions...we have to make sure that if we want to keep them Pandev and Ledesma will not leave free-agents next years, otherwise it will be very difficult to get this kind of money...
I would have been even more happy if we would have agreed a 5-6 million euro fee payable in 2-3 years for Matuzalem...but I guess that was not possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:22 pm

I am more worried about his attitude more than his football skills.. there's no doubt, he's a top class midfielder, but he used FIFA art 17 before, just like Behrami did to us earlier this season..

And he doesn't come cheap too, 8 million euro? affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:34 pm

I have read he is only coming on a one year loan deal...how true is that? If we have the choice to sign him through an option after that I would say yes to this deal..if it is only a loan, i would say no...
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:36 pm

800 mila, means 800,000 not 8 million

800,000 for the loan and 8 million for the full transfer

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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 pm

c. testa wrote:
800 mila, means 800,000 not 8 million

800,000 for the loan and 8 million for the full transfer

That's what I meant, if we were to redeem his transfer, it would cost us another 8 million euro affraid

Too much for a player who (1st) prone to injuries (he hasn't been playing for Zaragoza), (2nd) questionable loyalty, I know there's such thing as loyalty these days, but I just don't want another Behrami, if you know what I mean
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:43 pm

frederick wrote:
c. testa wrote:
800 mila, means 800,000 not 8 million

800,000 for the loan and 8 million for the full transfer

That's what I meant, if we were to redeem his transfer, it would cost us another 8 million euro affraid

Too much for a player who (1st) prone to injuries (he hasn't been playing for Zaragoza), (2nd) questionable loyalty, I know there's such thing as loyalty these days, but I just don't want another Behrami, if you know what I mean

yes but if it means the end of say, Manfredini, I'm ok with it

still wish that we'd sign a solid central defender

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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:10 pm

relax guys .... the money will come form EU-tournaments next year :)
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:13 pm

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relax guys .... the money will come form EU-tournaments next year :)

Very Happy

off topic but if only we could get INA Assitalia back on board as well....i thought their president was a laziale, but never knew much about that. they used to sponsor merda but switched sides, guess they worked out what a real club is

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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:37 pm

I'm not happy with this transfer. It is again a player on loan!!!! Lotito is crazy and everybody knows that he won't give 18 million or how many is it for Zarate and 8 million for Matuzalem. At the end of next year Ledesma and Pandev will be gone and there will no be any Zarate or Matuzalem....
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:53 pm

well if Zarate and Matuzalem prove to be the players we need there will not be any other way for Lotito.. plus I think that in Z's contract was said that we can pay the whole sum in 3 times and the last payment was due to 2010 or 2011 and it was around 9 mil
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:32 pm

we could Ronaldinho instead of zarate & matuzalem!!
& if he is 8mil we cold buy aimar, when he went to benfica with only 7mil
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 pm

and whos paying dhinos wages?

you?
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:43 pm

valdanito_10 wrote:
and whos paying dhinos wages?

you?
i just wana have a comparsion of the price, i know that we cant pay him if only we had him, any way it's not here to discus but i have protest to price of zarate, even i love so much him & it's a dream to see him in lazio jersey
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:08 pm

Matuzalem is a very good and solid midfielder.. he will add creativity in the middle along side Ledesma.. I have a feeling that he was brought in to pave way for Ledesma's exit..
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:54 pm

Zarate at least have the future in front of him...Matuzalem has not been oustanding in any club he has played for, and as I have understood he has a tendency to get injured and also he doesnt seem to be a player with that much heart considering how many clubs he has been to...he is not that young either...Everything is a bit of a mess since we dont really know what formation Mister will prefer to use...
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:53 pm

Lotito is trying to put pressure on River Plate, I think he wants to sign Fernandez, as a back up he has Matuzalem.
I'd prefer the argentinian.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:25 am

Every details about Fernandez's contract are finished!!Now we're just waiting that Fernandez gets passport!!!!!

FORZA LOTITO!!!VERY GOOD MOVEMENT!!!

http://www.piazzadellaliberta.it/2008/07/17/fernandez-accordo-lazio/#more-8511

Zauri is a new player of Fiorentina!!!We lost 2 players 2day.....Mudy and Zauri!!!
I'm sad because Mudy is gone,but I just can say best about him!!!!!
Thanx for everything to Mudy and Zauri!!!!!They were good "fighters"!!!
I want them to succeed in Bologna and Fiorentina!!!

http://www.piazzadellaliberta.it/2008/07/17/fernandez-accordo-lazio/#more-8511
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:36 am

yep ... Lotito is doing a great job.... just today we made 9 mil :)
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:44 am

Since Ledesma got his passport, and you can have 2 non-eu players in your squad, can't Fernandez arrive anyday now?
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:56 am

fernandez is expected to get his passport soon and will arrive as a eu player. they say he will really get it and its not like with carrizo
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:25 am

Biancocelesti wrote:
Since Ledesma got his passport, and you can have 2 non-eu players in your squad, can't Fernandez arrive anyday now?

No , as far as I know Matuzalem is going to use the vacant non EU spot. Thats why we must wait for his Italian pass.....
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:58 am

Ledesma's passport has nothing to do with it since the non-EU players rule concerns only newly signed players from abroad. And yes, the second non-EU place will be taken by Matuzalem if we sign him.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:47 pm

A one year loan for €2M .. is Lotito more crazy than usual? .. to buy him next summer would cost €15M-€16M .. if this accurate .. we should back out of this deal instantly


MATUZALEM - Lotito non molla il brasiliano del Real Saragoz­za. Il Real con­cede un prestito gratuito con diritto di riscatto fissa­to a 15- 16 milioni di euro. A Lotito spetterà il compito di pagare l’ingaggio del centrocampista, attorno ai 2 milioni di euro.

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/Calcio/36815/Zauri+e+Behrami+salutano+la+Lazio
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