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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:23 pm

drazvan wrote:
Welcome!

Guys, this year we build a great squad...

Carizzo, Radu, Rozenhal, Zarate, Matuzalem + the new youngsters Kozak and Lichtsteiner

I think Lotito really took revenge for last summer's missed mercato!
Well done, Claudio! Well done!

Yes but Zarate and Matuzalem are on loan, so if they play as stars, we won't get any money for them. And believe me, Lotito won't give 19 million for Zarate or 10 million for Matuzalem next year.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:32 pm

Matuzalem buy-out 10m??

cittaceleste & lazialita both news redemption set at 15 million.

http://www.cittaceleste.it/index.php?pag=notizie_dett.php&id=42136&tip=0
http://www.lazialita.com/VisualizzaSezione.asp?IdArticolo=335
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:11 pm

C4 says it is Ģ5m = 6.5m euros.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul19j.html
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:52 pm

So did he come to Rome to sign his contract ? Did Lotito present him infront of the fans and media ?
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:50 pm

monday
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:58 pm

I hope to see him doing this agains Roma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOzEobfosU&feature=related
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:21 am

drazvan wrote:
I hope to see him doing this agains Roma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOzEobfosU&feature=related




he had no9 on his shirt, are u shure he is a medfirlder ?? Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 am

AbedElkader wrote:
drazvan wrote:
I hope to see him doing this agains Roma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOzEobfosU&feature=related




he had no9 on his shirt, are u shure he is a medfirlder ?? Suspect

i think he is attacking midfielder, but shirt number hasnt anything to do with which position you play, remember Mihajlovic playing with number 11 Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:10 pm

CaptainLazio wrote:
AbedElkader wrote:
drazvan wrote:
I hope to see him doing this agains Roma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOzEobfosU&feature=related




he had no9 on his shirt, are u shure he is a medfirlder ?? Suspect

i think he is attacking midfielder, but shirt number hasnt anything to do with which position you play, remember Mihajlovic playing with number 11 Wink

He can play defending and attacking midfielder. In My opinion Rossi wil play Ledesma defending and Matuzalem attacking, instead of Mauri ofcourse. Hm it's acually quite difficult, if we play 3-4-3
carrizo
de silvestri-cribari-kolarov
Dado-Ledesma
Foggia Matuzalem
Pandev Zarate Rocchi

Mauri, Siviglia, Radu, Lichtsteiner... all that guys on the bank. I hope there will not be much tensions inside.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:38 pm

We will never play de silvestri-cribari-kolarov in the back...
3-4-3 means that the 3 defenders are central defenders (Rozenhal, Cribari, Radu or Siviglia) and that 2 out of the 4 midfielders are wingers (Kolarov on the left and De Silvestri/Lichtsteiner on the right). In the middle Dabo and Ledesma and in attack either Matuzalem/Foggia - Rocchi, Pandev/Zarate or Rocchi, Pandev, and Zarate with Matuzalem instead of Dabo in the center. Plus we have Mauri and Foggia in case Matuzalem gets injured. I think Meghni and Del Nero will not get too much playing time next season.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:04 pm

Yes Rossi will use 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 tactics in the upcoming season, however he said that the team should still could playing with his basic formation 4-3-1-2

but De Silvestri and Kolarov will not and can not play in the back three if we use 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formation...


so the starter might be :

3-4-3:

Carrizo

Rozehnal/Moti Cribari Siviglia/Radu

De Silvestri Ledesma Matuzalem/Dabo Kolarov


Rocchi Pandev Zarate




3-5-2:

Carrizo

Rozehnal Cribari Siviglia

De Silvestri Ledesma Matuzalem/Dabo Kolarov

Foggia/Mauri

Pandev Zarate/Rocchi



So many quality midfielders will make Rossi has a "dream of every coach" headache, who will he choose? Foggia, Dabo, Matuzalem or Fernandez(if he comes)?? or how about Meghni and Mauri?

Use 5 midfielders and 2 strikers so one of Rocchi, Zarate and Pandev won't play or just use 4 in the midfield in order to play with the big three upfront and sacrificing one of Dabo, Matuzalem, Fernandez etc

for further information you can look here http://www.lazialita.com/VisualizzaSezione.asp?IdArticolo=352

I wish we have this kind of players when we played in CL... they will be very useful for the rotation system... but what the heck, better late than never.. we shouldn't live in the past.. we live for today and tomorrow..

I bet that Serie A will be shining again.. Mourinho and Ronaldinho effect, the resurrection of Fiorentina, Napoli and Lazio (I'm crossing my finger) will make Calcio at least in line with La Liga
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:53 am

Serie A is already the best league. people just have to accept it

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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:45 pm

drazvan wrote:
We will never play de silvestri-cribari-kolarov in the back...
3-4-3 means that the 3 defenders are central defenders (Rozenhal, Cribari, Radu or Siviglia) and that 2 out of the 4 midfielders are wingers (Kolarov on the left and De Silvestri/Lichtsteiner on the right). In the middle Dabo and Ledesma and in attack either Matuzalem/Foggia - Rocchi, Pandev/Zarate or Rocchi, Pandev, and Zarate with Matuzalem instead of Dabo in the center. Plus we have Mauri and Foggia in case Matuzalem gets injured. I think Meghni and Del Nero will not get too much playing time next season.

Yes you're right. I hope Rossi won't use this formation because in that case we play with 5! defenders. If De Silvestri and Kolarov play on the midfield, they will be more defending than attacking I fear.
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:23 pm

What I was earlier talking about was having a playe on loan, and then such a high buy-out, when you could sign a player from the same team with quite similar position for a lower sum (and aimar is not that bad, honestly...he has potential to become a good player again...) ...matuzalem might be a good player and so on (even though I dont seem to see him as having the quality that some of you others do...hope i am wrong...) but is it worth it if it is a one-year thing? Too expensive to be bought out by Lotito, even if he preforms very well...I hope for the best out of this deal...

we will see, but there is a very delightful choice Mister will be making concerning how much he has to choose from in the squad...just compare to last year...
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:02 pm

Goerlandt wrote:
Yes you're right. I hope Rossi won't use this formation because in that case we play with 5! defenders. If De Silvestri and Kolarov play on the midfield, they will be more defending than attacking I fear.

You think? Usually Kolarov is very attacking minded even as a classic fullback in 4-4-2, what makes you think he will defend too much in 3-5-2? And De Silvestri loves to make attacking runs, too. I am not really a fan of 3-5-2 but we do have the wingbacks for it, IMO.

I wouldn't mind a flat 4-4-2 but with the potential of a star trident upfront, we will probably see it only if one of the forwards gets injured, so better not to hope for that. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:20 pm

c. testa wrote:
Serie A is already the best league. people just have to accept it

100% agree without a doubt!
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:09 pm

Matuzalem and Lichtsteiner medical and presantion

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Fotogallery/Lazio/5843/0/
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PostSubject: hoping for the best   Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:14 pm

i think matuzalem is a good choice, but i dont like the one-year-loandeals that lotito has. players disaper as fast as the got to the club. jimenez, bianchi. these are players with talent but they didnīt impress at lazio. i know jimenez is kind of a different story, but in my opinion he didnīt impress when he was playing. my point is that we loan players with potential, but if they fail under the one season they have with lazio, they are out. one season is not always enough to show you are worth the money. when coming to a new club you must have the time to adjust and learn about the teams standards!

matuzalem is 15 m/euro if lotito wants to buy him?...that amount of money sound unlike lotito, but i really hope that he loans a player with the intrerest to buy him later. we have to secure the long-term players, not depend on loaned players. if we do it like this every year we wont have the stability in the squadra as we need!
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:08 pm

What's his number?
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:16 pm

Here I bet no.10 Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:56 pm

nope number 8...
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:16 pm

CaptainLazio wrote:
nope number 8...

have the numbers been released yet?
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:19 pm

yeah... as far as i can tell it has...
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:20 pm

CaptainLazio wrote:
yeah... as far as i can tell it has...

where did you find this
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PostSubject: Re: Francelino Matuzalem   Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:23 pm

http://www.sslazio.it/cms/view/home/news/archivio/elenco_news/la_lazio_ha_ripreso_oggi_la_preparazione_in_ritiro_anche_lichtsteiner_e_matuzalem/s152/c1689

my italian arent great but i think it says lichtsteiner has number 2 and matuzalem 8...
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