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PostSubject: Where did it all go wrong?   Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:03 pm

Cast your mind back to May 2000, Chelsea had won the last ever FA Cup final at the old Wembley, Billie Piper was topping the charts, I was a fresh faced eleven year old and Lazio had just clinched a Serie A and Coppa Italia double. The new decade appeared to herald a golden era for the biancocelesti yet just ten years down the line the Roman club finds itself facing a relegation battle. Just where did it all go wrong?

The noughties certainly started well for Lazio, after winning the last ever Cup Winners Cup in 1999 the biancocelesti then defeated Manchester United to win the European Super Cup. Under the tutelage of Sven Goran Erikkson and with stars such as Alessandro Nesta, Pavel Nedved and Juan Sebastian Veron the club pipped Juventus to the league title on the last day of the 1999/00 season winning only the second Scuddetto in the their history. Inter Milan were then defeated in the Coppa Italia final to complete a memorable double. Not only was the club winning trophies but the they were also spending grotesque amounts of money, a world record £35 million on Hernan Crespo, £18 million on Veron and £29 million on Gaizka Mendieta (remember him?) to name but a few. Despite such lavish spending the club was unable to repeat the successes of 1999/00. Finishing third in 2001 they were forced to look on as bitter rivals Roma captured the Scuddeto and 2002 brought a highly disappointing sixth place finish. To make matters worse it became clear that financially the club had been living well beyond its means and in a similar situation to Leeds United had quite simply been spending money it didn’t have. President Sergio Cragnotti was forced to resign and prize assets Nesta, Crespo and Nedved were sold to rivals Milan, Inter and Juventus.

No longer able to compete for the title Lazio had to make do with fighting for European qualification on a miniscule budget, spending less then £30 million on transfers from 2002 to 2006. Despite this handicap the club still managed to win some silverware defeating Juventus in the 2004 Coppa Italia final. Iconic figure Paulo Di Canio returned for the 2004/05 season but couldn’t prevent the club slipping down into the depths of mid table. This seemingly irreversible cycle of decline continued in the summer of 2006 when Lazio were implicated in the calciocopoli match fixing scandal. Originally relegated to Serie B a successful appeal saw the punishment reduced to a deduction of 11 points. In many ways the scandal seemed to be the final nail in the coffin for the club whose triumphs in 2000 were fast becoming a distant memory. However in the face of adversity the club responded in remarkable fashion achieving a third place finish and a return to the Champions League despite the point’s deduction. Yet any hopes of a biancocelesti revival were soon quashed as the following season saw the club labour to a 12th place finish and drop out of the Champions League at the group stage. 2008/09 bought more mid table mediocrity although another Coppa Italia triumph did provide something of a consolation.

In spite of its promising beginning the noughties was largely a decade to forget for Lazio and the clubs current predicament suggests these woes are set to continue into the next. Despite possessing a squad which looks equipped for an assault on the top six Lazio find themselves in the relegation zone and already out of the Coppa Italia and Europa League. One potential reason for this disastrous turn of form is the conflict between president Claudio Lotito and so called rebels Goran Pandev and Cristian Ledesma. With both players turning down new contracts in the hope of leaving for a bigger club Lotito responded by banishing them from the first team forcing the players to train alone. Why Lotito took this course of action instead of selling the players and using the funds to find replacements is anyone’s guess. As a result Pandev successfully terminated his contract in January (although Lotito did his best to prevent this from happening) and is now in fine form for Inter whom he joined on a free. Meanwhile Ledesma remains and has expressed a willingness to aid the clubs fight against relegation yet such a bizarre situation can only have had a negative impact on the clubs morale.

Earlier this week Lazio sacked coach Davide Ballardini and hired former Napoli manager Edy Reja. The biancocelesti will be hoping this change of management is the spark which will ignite their season otherwise the unthinkable may well occur and just ten years after winning the Scuddeto Lazio could find themselves in Serie B.


http://www.footballfancast.com/european/serie-a/where-did-it-all-go-wrong-for-lazio

I HAVE SIMPLE ANSWER. LOTITO IS WHERE IT ALL WENT WRONG.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:19 pm

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Lazio fans want Bertarelli?

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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:32 am

in that time we spend 30 for transfer and that was only 30,imagine to spend now 30m
yes,i know hard to imagine
lotito create the image of our team as the team who sells game,as the team who dont respect their own players and fans
and 10 or 15 years before we have the respect from all world
in the 90 s and beging the new century we was considering the bigest team in serie a(after juve,milan and inter)and the only team who can take scodeto,coppa or super coppa from them
also we was team with international tropheys(coppa and super cup of europe)
we was seriosly representing the italian footbal in europe,where are we now
we have president who dont know how big team we are,this coast us to much,hope that the area of him will be over very fast
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:11 pm

No matter what. Lotito has to leave. The damage has been done. At the end of the season we will try to kick him out!
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:19 am

Think we tried that before,but he`s not for turning no matter how much pressure or abuse he get`s.he`s the type of man only his mother could love
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:08 am

It is time for lotito to make a statement and declare his intentions on selling the club to someone who is fit for this purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:29 pm

conceicao14 wrote:
It is time for lotito to make a statement and declare his intentions on selling the club to someone who is fit for this purpose.

He has made statements over and over again. And they always say the same; "I am staying".
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:49 pm

Galles. wrote:
Think we tried that before,but he`s not for turning no matter how much pressure or abuse he get`s.he`s the type of man only his mother could love

You mean SHE I guess...
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:35 pm

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/Calcio/101584/Inchiesta+della+Figc+sui+conti+della+Lazio+

what happened with Lazio, Lotito & etc?...
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:03 pm

Nothing to get worried about. The FIGC is looking into some accounts of lazio and investigating some irregularities with some payments. Probably some more of Lotito's tricks to save money (which aren't entirely legal). Lazio will not be affected, only lotito's pocket.

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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:18 pm

Sile wrote:
Nothing to get worried about. The FIGC is looking into some accounts of lazio and investigating some irregularities with some payments. Probably some more of Lotito's tricks to save money (which aren't entirely legal). Lazio will not be affected, only lotito's pocket.

Yes, most likely he'll just get fined.

Here's goal.com article about the case

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/03/09/1824675/lazio-president-claudio-lotito-under-investigation-over
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:41 pm

ehhhmmm those are great commissions that he was paying.

Is this just more evidence that he is using lazio for his own financial benefit and pay off some os his personal debts with "commissions" from player transfers.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:52 pm

Lotito might get banned if he is found guilty. I certainly hope. I would love it if they banned him from owning a club for 10 years.

I wonder if all these commissions went into Lotito's pocket? That would throw him out of the club for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:05 pm

Lazio President Claudio Lotito Under Investigation Over Mauro Zarate & Julio Cruz Transfers...
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/03/09/1824675/lazio-president-claudio-lotito-under-investigation-over
...opened an investigation regarding a commission of €14.95 million which was paid to Pluriel Ltd when Zarate signed his contract...
...The free transfer of Julio Cruz from Inter has also come under the microscope after Lotito paid a Dutch company €2.15m in commission....
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:10 pm

Don't fool yourself, he won't be going nowhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:53 am

Sile wrote:
Nothing to get worried about. The FIGC is looking into some accounts of lazio and investigating some irregularities with some payments. Probably some more of Lotito's tricks to save money (which aren't entirely legal). Lazio will not be affected, only lotito's pocket.


Actually it's something we should worry about. At the moment what's behind those 15 millions is under investigation. If it ends up to be a move from lotito to evade taxation, for instance, Lazio will be punished too. In the worst case scenario, we could even get a points-deduction.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:31 am

Conn wrote:
Sile wrote:
Nothing to get worried about. The FIGC is looking into some accounts of lazio and investigating some irregularities with some payments. Probably some more of Lotito's tricks to save money (which aren't entirely legal). Lazio will not be affected, only lotito's pocket.


Actually it's something we should worry about. At the moment what's behind those 15 millions is under investigation. If it ends up to be a move from lotito to evade taxation, for instance, Lazio will be punished too. In the worst case scenario, we could even get a points-deduction.

Why is there always a worst case scenario? The article clearly says that the club can not be involved. On what basis can they deduct points then? It's a big big stretch Conn and there are bigger and more present worries to occupy us.

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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:40 am

Sile wrote:
Conn wrote:
Sile wrote:
Nothing to get worried about. The FIGC is looking into some accounts of lazio and investigating some irregularities with some payments. Probably some more of Lotito's tricks to save money (which aren't entirely legal). Lazio will not be affected, only lotito's pocket.


Actually it's something we should worry about. At the moment what's behind those 15 millions is under investigation. If it ends up to be a move from lotito to evade taxation, for instance, Lazio will be punished too. In the worst case scenario, we could even get a points-deduction.

Why is there always a worst case scenario? The article clearly says that the club can not be involved. On what basis can they deduct points then? It's a big big stretch Conn and there are bigger and more present worries to occupy us.

I'm not an expert of sport laws, and FIGC rules either. The article you referred to was written by a journalist (on monday, I think) who, arguably, is not an expert of laws either. Yesterday I've heard the interviews of two lawyers experts in such things (Stagliano, former FIGC Commissioner, and Rossetti, from Federsupporter), and both said that Lazio will be punished if lotito evaded taxation ("objective responsibility" rule). And that in the worst case, Lazio could even have points deducted. That's exactly the update I reported.

So it's not something we don't have to worry about.

On the other hand, it is not something that has to prevent us from sleeping either: the situation is still very unclear, it's under investigation and so it could even all end up in a bubble.

That's all I said. Of course I agree with you we have bigger and more present worries to occupy us.
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:11 pm

Imagine how fun it would be if we in this situation get the point deduction. When ever will we hear some good news?
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:43 pm

'Lazio owe the fans derby victory'
Friday 16 April, 2010
Lazio President Claudio Lotito believes his side owes the fans a victory in this weekend's derby against Roma.

The Biancocelesti have performed well below par this season and still aren't safe from relegation with five games remaining of the current campaign.

“The team knows the kind of game it has to play and the players know how to face it,” Lotito explained.

“It's important both for our place in the table and for the fans. The players have a responsibility towards the fans.

“Our place in the table is below our potential. Now five finals await us.

“I hope that the derby is only a day of sport where correct behaviour prevails.

“It will be an anxious day but I hope that it will be one without the kind of behaviour that oversteps the line,” he concluded.

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NO wrong. Lotito you owe it to us. It is your duty to represent us and you have not. We do not like you and we want you out. So go away Lotito. Thanks to your bad work, Lazio have played below par.


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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:51 am

What? Lotito? fans? what?
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue May 04, 2010 2:30 pm

http://www.bold.dk/nyt/Lazio-praesident-modtog-doedstrussel

Translate:

Lazio president Claudio Lotito says that he last Friday received an envelope containing a bullet and a death threat.
Lazio lost 0-2 Sunday night for Inter, which so beat the Roma camp up the chair because they thought the Lazio team gave a weak effort to give Inter the best chance in the battle for the championship.

And now reveals Lazio president Claudio Lotito that he already Friday received a nasty letter in the mail. Envelope contained a message about winning the match against Inter, otherwise it would cost him life.

In addition, there was also a gun bullet in the envelope, thought to be consigned by Roma fans.

The case is transferred to the police, but according to La Gazzetta dello Sport is planning a group of Lazio fans now take at Olimpico tomorrow for Coppa Italia final between Roma and Inter to confront the Roma fans.


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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Tue May 04, 2010 2:34 pm

Yeah, I read the same story in a bulgarian site: http://www.sportal.bg/news.php?news=235666
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Mon May 10, 2010 5:13 pm

http://www.laseriea.it/lazio/news/protagonisti/clamoroso_lotito_potrebbe_lasciare_la_laziogruppo_geox_potenziale_acquirente/

Anyone who know something more about this issue.. I remember that the owner of firm that produce geox shoes was interested in buying Lazio (along with some Spanish art house) but I dont know what exactly happened. Could this be true!?! Anyway, I hope that yesterday was his last birthday as Lazio chairman..
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PostSubject: Re: Claudio Lotito   Mon May 10, 2010 5:50 pm

lets all get on the band wagon and oust lotito out. We survived relegation but now have to think about the future of lazio
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