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nando
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PostSubject: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 6:25 pm

it seems more likely that he is going to leave after the euro. in all honesty the only thing ill be vexxed about is the fact he is using article 17 to leave hes snake plain and simple, it pains me to see a player leave for little money. ciao valon believe me your memory on our team wont last long bom
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 6:48 pm

I like him as a player but he has shown us 0 respect to Lazio on this occasion.

Choosing to leave through this way is just despicable. Lazio gave you your big break and this is the way you repay us? By returning us less than 50% of what you are worth? I won't miss him at all. Why can't he leave with a good image?
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 6:52 pm

Valon couldve been a Lazio legend after il derby

if he uses article 17 then let me say f*** him

massive disrespect to the club, article 17 will kill football
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 7:09 pm

Not good. Valon should stay. No
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 7:16 pm

It's good for players desperate to leave but caged by clubs.
But do we cage him? I think we treat him almost like a superstar... We respect him...
(except by Lotito with that salary)

I understand if he wants to make Lotito pay for that, but please do not hurt the fans!

And what's so good with Sevilla?
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 8:27 pm

What does Article 17 say?

Article 17 deals with the compensation that must be paid for a breach of contract, principally but not solely the value remaining on the contract, plus a pro rata sum towards the player's original cost, if applicable. For example, player X, age 25, joins club Y for £6m on a four-year deal in summer 2004, on wages of £50,000 a week. In summer 2007 he can breach his contract by paying his club compensation of £2.6m for the value of his remaining wages, plus £1.5m for the amortised value remaining on his original transfer fee, or a total of £4.1m. Lampard signed a five-year deal in 2004, so can breach this summer for two years' wages, or about £8m. (His original £11m price tag in 2001 has already amortised to zero).
Gerrard signed a four-year deal in 2005, so could breach in summer 2008 for one year's wages, or about £5m. As a Liverpool youth product, there is no transfer cost to factor in. He is also beyond the cut-off age (23) where Liverpool could claim development costs.

So we can claim development costs... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sat May 24, 2008 9:40 pm

It might appear disrespectful to use articolo 17 in order to get out the door, but in this situation I am in full understanding of Valon Behrami´s decision. He has been paied way below what he probably could have earned at other clubs and we have a President who is known for demanding astronomous over prices for his players.

With other words. By using articolo 17, Valon Behrami can with all certainty choose between more clubs than he would ever have been able to if anyone would even want to meet Lotito´s fantasy prices.

Yes, it´s a shame that players leave this way, but you should blame the way our club is being managed under Lotito rather than you should blame a player who just wants to leave one big mess called Lazio.

From a sporting point of view, I don´t really care that Behrami leaves us. He is a good player, but he is injury prone to say the least and his role in the team is in my opinion not clearly defined. A decent management could quite easily replace him, whether that counts for Lotito as well I honestly have my doubts. But well, that´s more tragic than Behrami leaving us
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 7:32 am

it's hard to see a player of his talent and fight leave, we'll need to find a suitable replacement. i'm just glad we have de silvestre to cover the right back spot.
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 9:54 am

it's sad how our talented players have always to leave.. he's a great player with a great heart! we're gonna miss him for sure!
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 2:16 pm

Valon oh Valon...

He is playing with his fans hearts... We loved him.. really.. especially after the derby winning goal..

Well Valon.. we know that you hate Lotito.. but so WHAT?! We hate him as well!!

We prayed for you to play brilliantly in EURO, so you can be a real superstar, so your future will be brighter, so Lotito can be pushed to increase your wage or maybe he can sell you to ManU, Real Madrid or the likes..

But you choose to betray us!! the fans..

I don't care anymore about you.. I hope you'll fail in EURO.. so you will be back to your own nature before join Lazio.. an unknown player..

PS. Sorry Belgio... I edited to my own opinion tongue


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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 2:18 pm

Broencoceleste wrote:
Valon oh Valon...

He is playing with his fans hearts... We loved him.. really.. especially after the derby winning goal..

Well Valon.. we know that you hate Lotito.. but so WHAT?! We hate him as well!!

We prayed for you to play brilliantly in EURO, so you can be a real superstar, so your future will be brighter, so Lotito can be pushed to increase your wage or maybe he can sell you to ManU, Real Madrid or the likes..

But you choose to betray us!! the fans..

We don't care anymore about you.. We hope you'll fail in EURO.. so you will be back to your own nature before join Lazio.. an unknown player..


Please speak in your own name...
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 2:23 pm

I did as you say, Pieter..
Sorry bout that.. Very Happy

I'm to emotional I guess...
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 2:27 pm

No problem ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 6:28 pm

if he leavs with art 17 he will show disrespect towards Lazio.who was he before he joined us???

if he wants to leave at least he can do is to leave in normal way...
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 8:58 pm

Valon will lose my respect if he leave Lazio using (17) rule..... And so will Pandev altough he is my copatriot...
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 9:22 pm

if it's true, i'll hate him for that. But until then, he still has my respect. For me he is a very talented player, one we should keep! He is still young and has a lote of room for improvement.
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Sun May 25, 2008 11:11 pm

It would be a big mistake to underestimate his class and his potential. In a few years he can become one of the best wingers on the eurpoean fields if you ask me. But at the same time I can understand his will to play for a really big team and make some good money....
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Mon May 26, 2008 2:29 am

No such thing as loyalty these days my friend , I totally understand his decision (if he opted to leave us)
Was/is he a scapegoat? was he really wanted to leave us? or just because he sees no future in Lazio? is it really his fault? his agent? or maybe Lotito?
Doesn't really matter for me, one man doesn't make a team.. if he wants to leave and leave..

Thanks for the memory Valon, the derby, best of luck in the future..
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Mon May 26, 2008 2:42 am

Stay with us
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Mon May 26, 2008 4:46 am

So no hope what so ever to keep the guy. Hes on of my favs, but if he leaves under art 17 then hes the kind of player i dont want here.
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Mon May 26, 2008 11:10 am

I actually can't beleive some people are describing Behrami as a mercenario.
He shouldn't have had the opportunity to use this rule in the first place, and who is
to blame for this? One person and one person only, lotirchio.

You people don't really beleive that today's players love the jersey do you? Maybe a
handful do but if they had to choose between big money or playing for their favourite club
beleive me 99% of them would choose big money.

Back to Behrami, he is being offered peanuts by lotirchio.....even the smaller clubs in
serie A can offer more so I don't see why he should have to accept another 5 years of
mediocre salary when he can make 3-4 times as much elsewhere.

Lotirchio is bringing this club to its knees, failing to renew important contracts before its too
late, failing to get people to the stadium, failing to communicate with the fans, failing to
give our club solid roots. basically he's failing in everything...and don't tell me that he saved us
bla bla bla.

Remember, if Behrami leaves there will be a long list of players following him in the near
future, unfortunately all our best players cause our pippas will happily stay knowing that
nobody else wants them.

lotirchio VATTENE!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Mon May 26, 2008 12:35 pm

Valon should have been offered much more than 650.000 per season as offered by Lotito.

It is ridiculous for him to stay at that salary.

He played 3 seasons being underpaid (as most of other players) - 400.000 euros per season.


Now he has matured, improved and it is reasonable that he wants more money. He is at his peak and if Rocchi and such age was offered 1 million, than Valon should have been offered at least 900.000 euros and he would have stayed for sure at such rate.

This was, we are losing our most versatile player of our team and I am so sorry for that.
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Tue May 27, 2008 7:41 am

Ciao Valon its been nice knowing u. I thank you for what you've done for the club and understand that this is not being done for the wrong reasons but rather because you want better for yourself. Well Good Luck with your future endevours
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Tue May 27, 2008 11:10 am

A Roma Solo La Lazio wrote:
Ciao Valon its been nice knowing u. I thank you for what you've done for the club and understand that this is not being done for the wrong reasons but rather because you want better for yourself. Well Good Luck with your future endevours
I have the same opinion about Valons leaving. It was pleasure to watch Behrami and De Silvestri running all over the pitch. Together with Radu I thought this is the Future of Lazio. Definitely we are loosing essential player and it will be difficult to replace him .
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PostSubject: Re: ciao valon   Tue May 27, 2008 11:40 am

its not his fault he's using the art 17
wouldnt u if u knew u could get double the money somewhere else?

thanx for il derby
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