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PostSubject: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:24 pm

Afters seeing todays awful game I belive it's time for Rossi to go. He have no ideas anymore, keeps playing with his favourite players no matter what, can't motivate the team anymore. I know, the alternatives are not good, but please........We reached our maximum with Rossi, we won't go any further with him, if we are to make the next step, instead of allways be a mid-table team, playing one good ant two bad games, I'm sorry....Delio go away with dignity, before everybody starts to hate you and your choices. No ......Go away, go away!!!!!! And take the Big M (Makinwa, Manfredinho and Mauri) with you. The fourth M (Meghni) is at the risk zone also. Damn it!
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:36 pm

But we should suggest an alternative plan...
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:39 pm

Rossi Vatene
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:10 pm

CoreanoLaziale wrote:
But we should suggest an alternative plan...

Quote :
I know, the alternatives are not good, but please

I think he tried to but allas failed.....
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:14 pm

There are plenty of coaches without the job.
I want a coach with attacking mind, who is not chicken.
That's all.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:22 pm

If he had pride, he would leave...
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:16 pm

Dejan wrote:
There are plenty of coaches without the job.


Zacheronni? Very Happy

No, I tried to come up with some good tactician who is without a job, ex-Palermo coach, what's his name, Colontuano? He did well with Atalanta. There must be a good coach, who is able to take where Rossi clearly can't lead us to, as it seams.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:25 pm

Secret_Samadhi wrote:
Dejan wrote:
There are plenty of coaches without the job.


Zacheronni? Very Happy

No, I tried to come up with some good tactician who is without a job, ex-Palermo coach, what's his name, Colontuano? He did well with Atalanta. There must be a good coach, who is able to take where Rossi clearly can't lead us to, as it seams.

Anybody but him. Twisted Evil
Let stop joking.
Do you realy think that coaching football club is like nuclear science?
Look at Cagliari.
Where they were and where they are now.
And they draw at Napoli, with worse team then ours.
Their coach is not a chicken, our is,and i dont even know the name of Cagliari coach.
Sometimes I regret for not joining coaches school.
I would tell Rossi in the face that he suck big time.
But Im just an angry Lazio fan. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:32 pm

There is ONE coach that we can AFFORD that would be PERFECT and his name is .... I forgot :) but he´s the coach of Atalanta and was made famous by his years at Chievo.

God what is his name

ahh Luigi del Neri


Why is he perfect?

Because he loves the 4 - 4 - 2 lineup which is the lineup we should ALWAYS use at Lazio :)
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:42 pm

die Rossi die!!!

Simeone!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:04 pm

IRR87 wrote:
die Rossi die!!!

Simeone!!!

Wow. If you're 24 then I must be 125.

I'll sign your petition once any of you explains to me how it is Rossi's fault that a central defender loses a ball in the center of the field while trying to dribble, which led to a goal.
Once any of you explains how it comes to be that our central defenders have no clue what an offside trap is when Atalanta play it to perfection, then these kind of topics will get some recognition and merit.

This is just lame.

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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:24 pm

Isn't the coach JOB to teach central defenders how to use an offside trap? Rossi fault is than he can't do one of the most importatn thing of his job: How to motivate a player? Rossi fault is also that he keeps playing fuking Mauri match in and match out even everybody sees that he is trap and has been for almost 2 years now. And we should not talk about Manfredini. He was siedlined out of injury for a while now, and he has been picked up directly by our genious Rossi to do what? No, tell me what quality bring Manfredini to the team? What? Why not play Dabo, why not Kolarov, he can handle that position. Rossi is stubborn and ithas costed us many points. He has his favourite teams and they play no mathher what and that way is no way of coaching a team. Period.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:28 pm

Rossi can't legislate for Rozehnal's slip or Radu's inability to play offside.

He is responsible for the tactis which have been amazing at times and trap other times.

It's a new team, he needs time but he can't be given much more time.

Now is not the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:40 pm

Sile wrote:
IRR87 wrote:
die Rossi die!!!

Simeone!!!

Wow. If you're 24 then I must be 125.

I'll sign your petition once any of you explains to me how it is Rossi's fault that a central defender loses a ball in the center of the field while trying to dribble, which led to a goal.
Once any of you explains how it comes to be that our central defenders have no clue what an offside trap is when Atalanta play it to perfection, then these kind of topics will get some recognition and merit.

This is just lame.

I second that..
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:38 am

Danish-Laziofan wrote:
Sile wrote:
IRR87 wrote:
die Rossi die!!!

Simeone!!!

Wow. If you're 24 then I must be 125.

I'll sign your petition once any of you explains to me how it is Rossi's fault that a central defender loses a ball in the center of the field while trying to dribble, which led to a goal.
Once any of you explains how it comes to be that our central defenders have no clue what an offside trap is when Atalanta play it to perfection, then these kind of topics will get some recognition and merit.

This is just lame.

I second that..

Same here
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:19 am

Sile wrote:
IRR87 wrote:
die Rossi die!!!

Simeone!!!

Wow. If you're 24 then I must be 125.

I'll sign your petition once any of you explains to me how it is Rossi's fault that a central defender loses a ball in the center of the field while trying to dribble, which led to a goal.
Once any of you explains how it comes to be that our central defenders have no clue what an offside trap is when Atalanta play it to perfection, then these kind of topics will get some recognition and merit.

This is just lame.

Sorry Sile..but if you think that Lazio is playing like this because of players, i`m 225. I mean..in all matches we made big mistakes in our defense ? That`s why we don`t have a midfield..because players are doing BIG mistakes all the time ? Every time..every single game ? We have no tactical idea, players are wrong..this system with 100000 back midfielders is their mistake ? The fact that Mauri, Manfredini, Cribari etc. are not for Lazio..is their fault ? Rossi is putting them when he could very well let them die on the bench insted of starting a war with Rocchi. And there are many many reasons why you should sign that pettition. If you like what you see now..... then i understand. I don`t like.

Secret_Samadhi .. i will add to your list Juan Pablo Carizzo, with all my respect. He`s not a Lazio goalkeeper..he might be good in Argentina..but not here. Sorry to say this.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:02 am

I honestly think if we havn't improved by the Christmas break then Rossi has to go.

Can anyone remember since the Fiorentina game when we played good football? The team is deflated and Rossi cannot motivate them anymore, it maybe that a change in personnel might be the only solution.

The main thing that bugs me with Rossi is he never seems to be outspoken during a match, he rarely shouts instructions, motivates the players during matches, he just stands chewing gum. He doesn't have a clue.

Our roster of players can't be blamed because we have a very good team, they just can't perform under Rossi mindboggling tactics. Do we even have a game plan these days?
It seems we just try and soak up pressure and counter attack but wait....we never have anyone up front because our strikers have to come deep to get the ball.

I'll sum up my feelings on this topic...Rossi, i'll give you until Christmas!

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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:20 am

Kurama_SSLazio wrote:
Sile wrote:
IRR87 wrote:
die Rossi die!!!

Simeone!!!

Wow. If you're 24 then I must be 125.

I'll sign your petition once any of you explains to me how it is Rossi's fault that a central defender loses a ball in the center of the field while trying to dribble, which led to a goal.
Once any of you explains how it comes to be that our central defenders have no clue what an offside trap is when Atalanta play it to perfection, then these kind of topics will get some recognition and merit.

This is just lame.

Sorry Sile..but if you think that Lazio is playing like this because of players, i`m 225. I mean..in all matches we made big mistakes in our defense ? That`s why we don`t have a midfield..because players are doing BIG mistakes all the time ? Every time..every single game ? We have no tactical idea, players are wrong..this system with 100000 back midfielders is their mistake ? The fact that Mauri, Manfredini, Cribari etc. are not for Lazio..is their fault ? Rossi is putting them when he could very well let them die on the bench insted of starting a war with Rocchi. And there are many many reasons why you should sign that pettition. If you like what you see now..... then i understand. I don`t like.

Secret_Samadhi .. i will add to your list Juan Pablo Carizzo, with all my respect. He`s not a Lazio goalkeeper..he might be good in Argentina..but not here. Sorry to say this.

I can't believe I'm replying to this.
1. the age remark was aimed to the guy wishing rossi to die
2. yes, defensive mistakes. what else do you call today's preformance, or the goal milito scored etc.
3. who do you suggest we play in the mid? ledesma and brocchi are regulars, so that leaves the space open for 2 more. Matuzalem?injured.Meghni?not fit for 90 minutes, he's a liability. Foggia? he ahsn't done much in the 30 mins today what makes you think things would change radically if he started?Dabo? he's interchangeable with Brocchi. De Silvestri? Kolarov? who then if not Mauri and Manfre?
4. war with Rocchi?what war?he complained, then played a full game and did nothing.zero.zilch.nada.niente.nichts.
5. Find me a goalkeeper that could save today's goals when he was left alone, or milito's goal, or lavezzi's (siviglias OG), or baptista's header for under 20mill€. you won't not even for 50

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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:48 am

ROSSI GO HOME.

Where's Simeone? Does anyone here truly think we can't afford Diego??
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:43 am

Forza Lazio wrote:
ROSSI GO HOME.

Where's Simeone? Does anyone here truly think we can't afford Diego??

We can afford him moneywise, but I don't think we can afford him "season-wise" if you catch my drift

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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:52 am

I have to admit that I like Delio Rossi. I believe he has been one of our better coaches in recent years. However even I am becoming increasingly baffled by his team selections.....his obsession with Manfredini being a typical example.

He does not seem to know or realise what his best team is. I actually think the current group of players is good enough to secure a UEFA Cup spot this season and maybe even that fourth place but Rossi needs to stop tinkering with his team selection every week. He also needs to settle on a definite formation and if that means dropping some established players then he must have the courage to do so.

Personally, I would stick with Cribari and Sviglia at the back....I am not convinced by Rozenthal. Foggia would be in ahead of Mauri who I like but is too inconsistent. Am I also the only Lazio fan not convinced as yet by Carrizo?

Pandev is our number one striker but we need more quality in midfield. We have ball winners there but lack creativity. The criticism of Ledesma is I think unfair. He ploughs a lonely furrow! Perhaps we can strengthen this area iof the team n January by offloading some players. Lets hope so.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:33 pm

One of all time favourite topics for me, I second what Kurama said before, as his opnion matches those of mine.

It is rediculous to blame Rozhenal for the goal we conceeded yesterday, let me remind you guys that we were invesible in the field and hardly threatend Atalanta defense and GK?!as Capello said once upon the time, football is based on others faults, and it happens all the time, the disgrace that you play a 90 minutes of football without any threats vs a mini side like Atalanta and not Inter! we accept a defeat, but not in this way, and this is what some fans don't realize it for a moment! Blaming people for being unrealistic and out of there minds. This game is copy of the Bolonga, Milan, and Napoli defeats but this time the blow was more heavier, as Talamonti and Co were not busy at all! This game should have been won, yet the same tactical and players selection errors by Rossi, let us be silly here and consider Manfradini a football player, if I am not wrong he came from injury and he didn't play since the Napoli game (5 weeks ago)!!! Why not Meghni or Dabo started the game who are inform?

My main concerns, is the way we play football, we are depending on our players moments of magic like Zarate's and Pandev's dribblings, Kolarov's powerfull shoots, and Foggia's magics, while the whole team as a unit is ineffective or disorganized and lack soomth and uncomplicated football displays.... My question to the people jumping to defend, have you seen the way Napoli play solid TEAM football with quick passing and clear ideas of attacking and defending as a unit, have you seen our 1st half game Vs Genoa in the Olmpico? For a while I thought we are the away team! Why we don't play like them? Aren't Lazio on their standereds or what?

Why Napoli can beat the giants in their home ground and produce a solid games away from San Paolo Vs the big northen sides and lose in the dying moments with pride? Why 10 man Genoa hold Inter for the whole 2nd half and were more dangerous than 11 Inter stars togather? Why the same goes for Udinese and Palermo beating Milan heavily 3-1? What is the difference between us and them? Are we in the level of Bolonga and Atalanta or what?

Why Rossi strugles to beat them in our home ground and sometimes lose badly to them in front of our fans without mentioning our humilating away record since he was appointed as our boss 3 years ago? I was aware about Lazio in the early 90s, and what I know is that Lazio was all the time the team to be beaten by those big 3. Even when Papa and Caso were here with a less quality players, we kept our records for a while. Why we loose those games before it starts?

Have you ever saw those fights between players and Coach? Starting from Baronio, Benetto, Foggia, Kolarov, Mudy, Muta, Cribari, De Silvestri, and recently Rocchi! Did I miss any one else?

Once I got a reasonable answers, I will stop my critisizing Rossi.

It is sad Caxi you are defending Rossi based on one game vs Viola? Man, you followed Lazio since 95 as you write in your profile, are you aware that once upon the time there was a coach called Zac back in 01-02 season with the likes of Nesta, Crespo, Fiore.....etc at his disposal and we finished 6th with a horoble season to call it back? However Mancio with a team less than those produced the best football in Italy and with the least defeats in Serie A, matching the champions Juve's record! And made from Stankovic, Corrdai, Oddo, Fiore, Cesar, and GG stars at that time! Do you think that the likes of Foggia, Ledesma, Pandev, Rocchi, Zarate, Kolarov, Radu, De Silvesrti...etc are less capable than them! Do you think that our side have a solid character to impose our play on others! Hopefully the msg is clear! And the reasons behind Lazio troubles are well identified.

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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:59 pm

Thx Laziophilic ! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:24 pm

Laziophilic wrote:
It is sad Caxi you are defending Rossi based on one game vs Viola? Man, you followed Lazio since 95 as you write in your profile, are you aware that once upon the time there was a coach called Zac back in 01-02 season with the likes of Nesta, Crespo, Fiore.....etc at his disposal and we finished 6th with a horoble season to call it back? However Mancio with a team less than those produced the best football in Italy and with the least defeats in Serie A, matching the champions Juve's record! And made from Stankovic, Corrdai, Oddo, Fiore, Cesar, and GG stars at that time! Do you think that the likes of Foggia, Ledesma, Pandev, Rocchi, Zarate, Kolarov, Radu, De Silvesrti...etc are less capable than them! Do you think that our side have a solid character to impose our play on others! Hopefully the msg is clear! And the reasons behind Lazio troubles are well identified.

Crazie

I care what you think because?

I am not defending anyone but when people go and criticise Delio after a 3-0 demolition of the 4th best side in Serie A, I might just be entitled to raise a few eyebrows. There's no credibility in the above statement because it's coming from you. If Sile or one of the mods came out and said something like this then maybe I would begin to heed it.

No point comparing Zac to Manc. That was different times, different seasons, different circumstances. We are blooding a new bunch of players here and Claudio has given Delio the chance to develop something. We are sitting 5th in the table with a side in a gelling process, one point off a Champions League spot and after every bad result, there is 3 guys (no need to mention names) who come out with stupid, foolish comments. Formulate arguments you can back up and I will listen.

I have said Delio is not the best coach for us on many an occasion. However, no action was taken in the summer so he must be given to January to see if we are on course to reach our goals. If not, then look at making a change. December is not the best time.

Just one thing, you compare Zac's 6th with Nesta et al to Manc's 4th with Oddo et al? Hmmm...how about comparing Manc's 4th with Oddo et al with Delio's 3rd with Makinwa/Manfredini/Mauri et al? Can you not see why I can't take you seriously?

That is all.
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PostSubject: Re: Rossi go away PETITION!   Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:37 pm

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I care what you think because?

I am not defending anyone but when people go and criticise Delio after a 3-0 demolition of the 4th best side in Serie A, I might just be entitled to raise a few eyebrows. There's no credibility in the above statement because it's coming from you. If Sile or one of the mods came out and said something like this then maybe I would begin to heed it.

No point comparing Zac to Manc. That was different times, different seasons, different circumstances. We are blooding a new bunch of players here and Claudio has given Delio the chance to develop something. We are sitting 5th in the table with a side in a gelling process, one point off a Champions League spot and after every bad result, there is 3 guys (no need to mention names) who come out with stupid, foolish comments. Formulate arguments you can back up and I will listen.

I have said Delio is not the best coach for us on many an occasion. However, no action was taken in the summer so he must be given to January to see if we are on course to reach our goals. If not, then look at making a change. December is not the best time.

Just one thing, you compare Zac's 6th with Nesta et al to Manc's 4th with Oddo et al? Hmmm...how about comparing Manc's 4th with Oddo et al with Delio's 3rd with Makinwa/Manfredini/Mauri et al? Can you not see why I can't take you seriously?

That is all.


I think you should be less arrogant in your approach. I think you should care what other people says on the forums, cuz it's the whole purpose of having a forum, to have different thoughts, all in the name of respecting others oppinions. I'm sick and tired of people who think they know everything and thinking only they theory is the correct one. If you don't care about other people oppinion, why bother answering then?
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