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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:07 am

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Well... itīs more than ok to criticize whoever needs to be criticized.

Rossi, Lotito, any player or even the fans. Without criticism I believe there is also no quality forum. In these times, there is certainly a lot to criticise. I understand the anger that any laziale feel in this moment of time and I notice there is an overwhelming need to express that anger...

I would just like members to back their opinions with well founded arguments, so that we can actually have some decent discussions. Thatīs the point of the forum, rather than just writing a silly oneliner doing nothing but revealing the poster as a clueless hypocrite

Thats it.
I leave this forum.
U cant critise anyone, and staff can call you hypocrite?
Farewell and good luck.

You choose for yourself...

But I need to say, that I believe you twisted my words quite a bit. If you had read carefully, I said that any criticism is always welcome as long as that criticism is backed by arguments. Letīs call that constructive criticism...

Sorry, but if "Fuck off Rossi, You moron" is all you hear whenever Lazio looses, then I think itīs not very constructive, nor is it very beneficial to Laziofever as a whole.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:26 am

Forza Lazio wrote:
Sgt. Pepper wrote:
Magnoem wrote:
Forza Lazio wrote:
NO COMBINATIONS! NO TACTICS! NO WILL! NOTHING! ROSSI U R A F*CKIN' MORON!

I guess you've made this comment to use for every time we lose?

It feels bad as it is but reading such 'analysis' makes it even worse.

I agree Magnoem... Such remarks are doing nothing but ruining the forum. But there isnīt much I can do about it, since the above comment from "Forza Lazio" (seems strange to choose such a nick, considering his posts) is pretty much the same as every second post in the forum these days...

In any case... I think we played a decent first half. Lots of pressure on the ball, fast counters and it seemed as if our midfield worked a lot better than in recent matches. Unfortunately our attackers are not taking their chances at the moment, not to mention that Pandev seems completely out of form...

In the second half, I wonder if we even touched the ball ??? Basically we were just run over by a great Milan side simply outplaying us. We were lucky to get away with 0-3 as the scoreline could easily have been doubled up. I think we were eager to proove our worth tonight, but at the first sign of problems we just fell apart and let Milan play their game without any pressure and they are way too good to be allowed to do that.

Well... not much to say that has not been said already in recent week. There is no defence and we tend to fall completely apart. I guess thatīs what you call crisis...

I suspect Meghni was tired or injured, otherwise it was a strange decision to take out by far our best player
You just gave a commentary of the match which anyone who understands football could do, proposing nothing. You're like a football commentator.
Whereas I, by just a couple of words, tried to show that I find the reason of such shameful matches in Delio Rossi and that he needs to be sacked. What do you propose? Your posts look so calm and gently written that it makes me even think that you totally give no sh*t about Lazio's performance, or is it OK for you 10 conceded goals in 3 matches? Get a life, will you, or at least stop criticising me, who's trying to get his voice heard like the IRR did at Formello. E basta.

Fair enough if you didnīt like my post. It wasnīt a very good one either, so I canīt blame you...

However, at least I took a few minutes to write down my thoughts on tonights game, which is a lot more than you did when trying to do your imitation in an internet forum of what you thought Irriducibili did at Formello the other day. Then I suggest you showing up at Formello, rather than hiding behind your PC screen to be honest with you.

But ok, in all honesty, I think you showed on this last page that you are capable of discussing Rossi in a constructive way which Laziofever appreciates much more than those oneliners that does nothing than ruining the atmosphere.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:58 am

Forza Lazio wrote:
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Today was bad luck too?
Yeh, we were extremely unlucky: Pato missed one on one with GK twice, Kaka hit the post. So we were very unlucky. Because if luck was on our side, we would've beaten Milan 10-0, because we got such an amazing coach like Delio Rossi. He just was a bit moody today, that's why we lost. Otherwise Delio Rossi and his Lazio defence are 100000000 times better than Ancelotti and Milan defence. You know that...

Forza Lazio wrote:
Kurama_SSLazio wrote:
You guys know what will be very funny now ? To have some fellows that will say "we have bad luck" or "if we have score that half of chance that we had all match..we could have got a chance" or "Delio Rossi qualified us in CL ..we were just unlucky now" =))))

Anyway..it`s a decent result considering that we lost JUST with 0-3. This is a good result for a team trained by Delio Rossi.
Hahahaah...so true, so true, and so sad as well that it makes you cry...mamma mia, Lazio, what's happening to you...what is that motherfucker Rossi doing to you...
You know guys, I think Rossi is a romanista...no,seriously, this is very possible.

Wow, such amusement. I guess you are happy now? scratch

I pity you...
Pity you that you didn't realise that my first post was a sarcastic one.

I realise your first post was a sarcastic one. The problem is that you only made it to make fun of Delio Rossi, which you obviously hate. And in your second post I notice laughing when there's not much to laugh about, to say the least.

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I wonder if this Lazio is actually better than the Lazio of 04/05 season. On paper the players are better, but the results are the same.

Ehhh, I wish I was a son of a billionaire so that I could ask my dad to buy Lazio and kick out Lotito and Rossi...a dream which will probably never come true. :)

P.S. It's very funny seeing Magnoem saying such sentences like "I think we played well in the first half" or "Matuzalem and Meghni were playing very well" or "Our defence looked pretty good in the beginning".

I wonder if any single fan of Manchester United wouldn't slag off the players if they even DREW at home against Everton, let alone lose.

I do have a lot of Man Utd friends that seem so angry when United draws away against Aston Villa, for e.g., whereas almost any draw for Lazio is regarded as a very positive thing.

Anyways, said but true that Cragnotti era was and probably will be the only light in the dark pages of recent years. Nothing can be done and nothing WILL be done.

I remember when Ermetico once said to me: "Everything in Lazio is wrong...players, president, coach, everything. Everything must be changed". I disagreed with him that day but now it seems he's right. EVERYTHING must be changed...even the cleaners at Formello :) (just trying to ass some humour to this, sorry if someone didn't like that).

It's funny to you huh? It isn't to me, because you aren't even able to make an argument to argue against me.

I also see that Man Utd fans and their way of slagging players are of a great example to you.

As for me, I prefer supporting the team rather than bashing it. Also I prefer arguing criticism and discussing possible solutions, instead of venting anger for the sake of personal needs.

Forza Lazio wrote:
Magnoem wrote:

Why do you think our team is second rate? Of course Milan has one of the top sides in the world but that doesn't mean we can't beat them. Actually I believe we have the potential to beat anyone, but the sad thing is we're not doing it because of stupid mistakes.
That's better...

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I agree that we might have too much expectations, but on the other hand people are right to upsed and criticise Delio because the team isn't performing the way it could.
Eccola! So perhaps Rossi should leave, eh? Because no tactics, no combination, and no motivation is seen in the players,right?

This is getting ridiculous...

Don't you see a little bit of difference between 'underperforming' and 'no tactics, no combination, no motivation'? Of the mistakes I mean mistakes like the ONE for the second goal today, or like the TWO we made in the match against Sampdoria. That's THREE in total.

Don't you think there's a difference in the bashing you are doing, and an attempt to make an critical evaluation of our problems?

Unfortunately this has gotten to the point where I don't see it worthwile to replying to you. Hopefully we can discuss something some day but meanwhile I'd rather do it with people who speak with their heads, not with their emotions.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:15 am

Magnoem, WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY ARGUE ABOUT IF WE BOTH SEE THE SAME THING, but the only difference is that we express it differently? I think both of us (and many other Laziali as well) agree, that we have very good players and the only change we need is the coach.
And yes, I do hate Rossi because he made my beloved team - S.S.Lazio, feel humiliated not only in Italy,but in Europe.

What regards the support to the team...please, don't confuse me...I love Lazio at least as much as you do. Full stop.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:17 am

our defense sucked again.... again a goal from a set piece.. and how many times did we fall in the off-side trap....toooooo many! FORZA LAZIO!
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:24 am

How sad is it that very few posters complimented the players on the fight they put up today. So are the people determined on making Rossi a scapegoat for all the problems that have hit the team over the past few weeks that very few emphasized the fact that we conceded the 1st goal from an offside position 3 minuted before the break and the 2nd 3 minutes after the break after the eventual goalscorer fouled Siviglia in the box and the play should have been suspended.
It is easy to look at the scoreline and say there was no heart, no passion, what's hard is to say that this team today gave their best to overcome a team with more experienced, better paid and less stressed players. A team that has the luxury to have Pippo Inzaghi, Shevchenko and Ronaldinho on the bench. This is not envy, this is just stating some facts.

It was hard enough to dream about the win, to try and feel optimistic about tonight, to put heart and soul int this one hour and a half, and to see those very same dreams quashed by dubious refereeing and childish defensive mistakes, but reading through pages and pages of cynicism, defeatism, narrow mindedness and absence of heart and pride...

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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:39 am

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First things first, Rossi's starting line-up was ery questionable. Playing Brocchi and Meghni who are not fully fit and had to be substituted later seemed strange considering Mauri and Dabo were fit to play and have done so in recent weeks and then there was Matuzalem who is still gaining match fitness.

First half we were good but football is all about creating chances and taking them and unfortunately for us, Milan buried one just before the break which was a hammerblow for the team.

They then nicked one in the second half and any confidence or belief we had was gone. Milan are on good form and they were brimming with confidence and belief and could control the game with their quality midfield keeping possession and limiting our opportunities.

We fought and we fought but in the end it was in vain.

Muslera was commanding and aware all night and didn't deserve to see the ball fly past him on three occasions. A very solid performance from him. Meghni gave his all and played well despite carrying an injury.

Outclassed and outpowered essentially. All we need is a win to get the confidence and belief back. It's tough times but we gave it our best shot and just lost out to the better side on the day.

Summed up pretty well, however I don't think the line-up was a bad choice. In fact Meghni did very well and most of the attacks came through him. I was also quite impressed by Matuzalem, because he was convincing not only in going forward but also put up a good effort in defence. In the first half some of the link-up play from midfield to attack was excellent today.

I'm looking forward to see Matuzalem play more and Meghni is on a such good form it's very hard for Mauri to replace him, even after that game against Torino.

The defence also did a decent job in the first half but the finishing from the strikers was disappointing. I think it's time for Zarate to rest a little. Rocchi looked back to near his best lately, we need him badly to put the finishing touch.

I don't necessarily think it was a bad choice Magnoem but rather that he took quite a gamble. It's impossible to tell whether it paid off but as you said, the risks looked good.

I agree with Zarate too. For me, he fought but not to the extent that caused some to praise him in the ChatBox. Passion is an emotion but emotion is not passion. I would describe Zarate as emotional today. Perhaps passion formed some of that emotion but how much I can't tell. Whereas, if you take Meghni on the other hand, he didn't show much emotion but whilst on the field, you could tell there was passion.

It's always very difficult to judge individual players commitment but at least for me we showed some guts as a whole.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:50 am

I don't know what to say really, most of you guys already said it all. We can't say the guys aren't trying because today everyone fought which makes it harder. For all our efforts we're not getting rewarded. Our team is highly talented, they can play their football against every opponent be it Milan and Juve we dominated the first half which shows our quality. The point is that we loose chances that make a difference than we concede stupid goals. Where before our midfield was the main problem, now it seems its functioning very well but our attack and defense weren't on form. Our attackers aren't sharp enough they're a threat but they're not the strikers to finish a good move. While our defense again was terrible on set pieces. We concede by not functioning as a unit, suffering from individual errors which can be easily be solved by communicating more.

Muslera certainly has talent... his timing when to come out facing a player 1 to 1.. is really great possibly helped by his good acceleration coming out of goal.
I must say he is providing tough competition to Carrizo.

I really would like to see more Italian players in this team, more players that know Seria A.. the ones that worked through the league to make a name. They would certainly help.. we badly need one in defence to lead our line. Radu is still very much unexperienced and I'm starting to give up on Rozenhal, he made a decent start and hoped he would improve on that by time, still he keeps on making mistakes he's way to insecure, not really a better player than Cribari. We might well give Diakite more experience, at least we're trying to invest in his future.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:05 am

Forza Lazio wrote:
Magnoem, WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY ARGUE ABOUT IF WE BOTH SEE THE SAME THING, but the only difference is that we express it differently? I think both of us (and many other Laziali as well) agree, that we have very good players and the only change we need is the coach.
And yes, I do hate Rossi because he made my beloved team - S.S.Lazio, feel humiliated not only in Italy,but in Europe.

What regards the support to the team...please, don't confuse me...I love Lazio at least as much as you do. Full stop.

I don't think we see the same thing, and even if we do in some ways then we express it in a very different ways. I never said the only change we need is the coach, in fact I'm not sure we need to do it. (See my posts at Sampdoria-Lazio thread, where there's a decent discussion on the problems at Lazio). Also I'm not questioning your passion for the club, I actually think that would be a bad thing to accuse anyone. But as I said in another post I'm concerned on how people express their passion in a negative way.

Since we have different opinions and ways of expressing it then, as I said, there's no point of taking it further.


Sile wrote:
How sad is it that very few posters complimented the players on the fight they put up today. So are the people determined on making Rossi a scapegoat for all the problems that have hit the team over the past few weeks that very few emphasized the fact that we conceded the 1st goal from an offside position 3 minuted before the break and the 2nd 3 minutes after the break after the eventual goalscorer fouled Siviglia in the box and the play should have been suspended.
It is easy to look at the scoreline and say there was no heart, no passion, what's hard is to say that this team today gave their best to overcome a team with more experienced, better paid and less stressed players. A team that has the luxury to have Pippo Inzaghi, Shevchenko and Ronaldinho on the bench. This is not envy, this is just stating some facts.

It was hard enough to dream about the win, to try and feel optimistic about tonight, to put heart and soul int this one hour and a half, and to see those very same dreams quashed by dubious refereeing and childish defensive mistakes, but reading through pages and pages of cynicism, defeatism, narrow mindedness and absence of heart and pride...

Post nubila phoebus. Avanti Lazio!!!

Well said! The bolded part has been exactly what I've been thinking over the last week and those three damn games.

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Magnoem wrote:
Caxi wrote:
First things first, Rossi's starting line-up was ery questionable. Playing Brocchi and Meghni who are not fully fit and had to be substituted later seemed strange considering Mauri and Dabo were fit to play and have done so in recent weeks and then there was Matuzalem who is still gaining match fitness.

First half we were good but football is all about creating chances and taking them and unfortunately for us, Milan buried one just before the break which was a hammerblow for the team.

They then nicked one in the second half and any confidence or belief we had was gone. Milan are on good form and they were brimming with confidence and belief and could control the game with their quality midfield keeping possession and limiting our opportunities.

We fought and we fought but in the end it was in vain.

Muslera was commanding and aware all night and didn't deserve to see the ball fly past him on three occasions. A very solid performance from him. Meghni gave his all and played well despite carrying an injury.

Outclassed and outpowered essentially. All we need is a win to get the confidence and belief back. It's tough times but we gave it our best shot and just lost out to the better side on the day.

Summed up pretty well, however I don't think the line-up was a bad choice. In fact Meghni did very well and most of the attacks came through him. I was also quite impressed by Matuzalem, because he was convincing not only in going forward but also put up a good effort in defence. In the first half some of the link-up play from midfield to attack was excellent today.

I'm looking forward to see Matuzalem play more and Meghni is on a such good form it's very hard for Mauri to replace him, even after that game against Torino.

The defence also did a decent job in the first half but the finishing from the strikers was disappointing. I think it's time for Zarate to rest a little. Rocchi looked back to near his best lately, we need him badly to put the finishing touch.

I don't necessarily think it was a bad choice Magnoem but rather that he took quite a gamble. It's impossible to tell whether it paid off but as you said, the risks looked good.

I agree with Zarate too. For me, he fought but not to the extent that caused some to praise him in the ChatBox. Passion is an emotion but emotion is not passion. I would describe Zarate as emotional today. Perhaps passion formed some of that emotion but how much I can't tell. Whereas, if you take Meghni on the other hand, he didn't show much emotion but whilst on the field, you could tell there was passion.

It's always very difficult to judge individual players commitment but at least for me we showed some guts as a whole.

Yeah, he might have taken a gamble, I also didn't expect them to start. But since they gave a good performance you could also say the decision to play them was correct.

As for the commitment I think we certainly put up a real fight in the previous two games. Only today I think we sort of gave up in the last 20 minutes, because Milan were so much in control, nothing went right for us, and as a consequence there wasn't any belief anymore. But I actually felt the same, so can't blame the players for that.

Talking about Zarate, I mean that even if there's passion in him then it's being channeled in a negative way, and it damages his game.

Btw, just read Rossi's comments on the game and it's hard to disagree with anything. So at least he sees the problems. The most important question is, of course, whether he'll be able to fix them.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:36 am

Some folks here said about me and those who have an issue with Rossi (and not since yestarday...since 2 years ago) that we`re not really Lazio fans.

I wonder if a true Lazio fan is happy with the situation...and i wonder if a true Lazio fan really likes what Delio Rossi did to us. Maybe that means to be a true fan, and then i wont be one of them. Never..because i care (it`s a complicate word for some of you) about Lazio.

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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:43 am

Kurama_SSLazio wrote:
Some folks here said about me and those who have an issue with Rossi (and not since yestarday...since 2 years ago) that we`re not really Lazio fans.

I wonder if a true Lazio fan is happy with the situation...and i wonder if a true Lazio fan really likes what Delio Rossi did to us. Maybe that means to be a true fan, and then i wont be one of them. Never..because i care (it`s a complicate word for some of you) about Lazio.

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Get a grip.

I know what "true" means and all its meanings because I'm a native english speaker. Some here are not and that's quite insulting of you. We are not being "true" to Rossi, we are being "true" to Lazio. I am "true" to Lazio because I am a fan and we should all be that way.

Please don't single out those that agree with you as those who have the knowledge. I singled out those who I felt were making valuable contributions to the forum at this delicate time, not necessarily the people I agree with. You have shown you can back up your arguments on occasion but once again, in the last 3 games, you have predominantly chosen to criticise certain individuals (some who weren't even on the field during these losses) and failed to explain why. Opinions change but yours never seem to wane. I'm sorry, but I call that clouded judgement.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:07 am

Kurama_SSLazio wrote:
Some folks here said about me and those who have an issue with Rossi (and not since yestarday...since 2 years ago) that we`re not really Lazio fans.

I wonder if a true Lazio fan is happy with the situation...and i wonder if a true Lazio fan really likes what Delio Rossi did to us. Maybe that means to be a true fan, and then i wont be one of them. Never..because i care (it`s a complicate word for some of you) about Lazio.

Hail Forza_Lazio
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Hail Laziottimo

Again I repeat that this is not a matter of being for or against Rossi !!

I think looking at Lazioīs performances this season and the last one, every sane laziale is questioning Rossiīs decision and position. The difference is the way of expressing it and perhaps also the timing sometimes...nothing else
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:02 am

A bad and over exaggerated result but with the luck Lazio have had this season and in past seasons, and especially against Milan, it isn't all that shocking. Whats shocking is the defense. The first half Lazio dominated. Created good chances and kept Milan under pressure. After there stupid goal its as if, once again, the team drops all confidence. Tried another shot or two, nothing special but no goals so its like the team gives up. The first half was great I thought, bar the goal. The players looked good, determined, committed and ready to battle and achieve a hard earned result. Unfortunately, like many times this season, Lazio start off well, create numerous chances, don't take them or nearly enough and then concede a silly goal and from there the confidence level drops completely. Its sad watching this happen to our beloved them with such talented and skilled individuals. I don't blame Rossi for the missed goal scoring opportunities or lapses in defense. Once again Lazio could easily have taken the lead but didn't and again were severely punished for it. Its happening too much. Concentration is the main issue here I believe.

Milan got lucky as they usually do. They did play better in the second half though. But the Ambrosini goal was annoying also as seconds before he fouled Siviglia and the ref did nothing. The defending here was incredible. Rozehnal watched, as did all the other defenders and Muslera could do nothing about - nor the first or last goals in the match. Something needs to be done in defense and very, very, very fast. The attack is good but defensively Lazio is weak and we can't always rely on the attackers to grab the points for the team. An unlucky result so for that I am never fully pissed off, but the loss in belief in the second half was heart aching. The concentration lapses have cost us dearly all season long and something needs to be done fast.

As for the players I thought Muslera, Meghni, De Silvestri and Pandev had very good games. Matuzalem did well, as did the strikers. Brocchi started off well but drifted off, as did a majority of the defensive unit and against experience sides like Milan, mistakes like that can lead to big consequences.

Towards the next match with our heads held high.... FORZA LAZIO!!!! NON MOLLARE MAI!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:04 am

Forza Lazio wrote:
Magnoem, WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY ARGUE ABOUT IF WE BOTH SEE THE SAME THING, but the only difference is that we express it differently? I think both of us (and many other Laziali as well) agree, that we have very good players and the only change we need is the coach.
And yes, I do hate Rossi because he made my beloved team - S.S.Lazio, feel humiliated not only in Italy,but in Europe.

What regards the support to the team...please, don't confuse me...I love Lazio at least as much as you do. Full stop.

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Delio Rossi took us into Europe in the 1st place..
and if you think we were humiliated check again - our squad earns about 14 million euro a year, up against teams that are worth 100m we have done well

sacking Rossi and bringing in someone who is at best, just as good as Rossi wont suddenly turn us into world beaters.

with the defence we have, we cant do any better. Once Rossi is gone, all that will change is the scapegoat and ppl will find someone else to blame (prolly the new coach).

FFS, instead of saying "Rossi merda, Rossi vattene, Rossi vaffanculo" how bout actually trying to explain how you'd fix our defensive problems and which coach you want and why...

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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:18 am

It something unbelievable that Rossi always finds excuses.When I saw on goal.com the title,I started to laugh.Why hasn't he got the courage to say goodbye?This is no more about how to coach the team,from now this means how much respect he has got for the club...
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:00 pm

there are very few true Lazio fans here
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:36 pm

Max_Cady wrote:
there are very few true Lazio fans here


Give me an example...
I support Lazio,but I don't support Rossi,cause he's humiliating Lazio!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:06 pm

I am one of the who dislikes rossi......hes time a Lazio is over for a long time now.
Last season we had a terrible team....so it wasnt rossis fault. But this year its a very talented team and he just cant handle it. He had time just like Makinwa had to prove himself. To find a stabile team and a stabile tactic which fits with our best players.
Anyhow the ones who support rossi and say its not his fault he brought us to europe and so on....theres a simple fact for you-rossis time is over in LAZIO 1900. He can be a coach for a serie-B team. Lippi left Juventus-is he bad? Juve needed an new face in the coach place...thats all. And its so with many teams.
I Love Lazio and i couldnt sleep last night....but i hate rossi.
Next one is viola and i only hope to see Meghni on the same position...he was great...only thing that made me feel good.
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:13 pm

This is for those who say that last night Lazio played well and put up all its heart into the game:

LAZIO 3 - Tre come i gol incassati dal Milan e come le sconfitte consecutive. Le parate di Abbiati e le occasioni mancate di un soffio all'inizio sono pagliuzze paragonate alla trave della figuraccia finale. Perché quando la squadra di Ancelotti accelera, quella di Rossi affonda, travolta con altre tre reti di scarto, dopo il 4-1 dell'andata.

Source: LaLaziosiamonoi.It

P.S. Lazio got the worst mark out of all 20 clubs in serie A. The team higher than us (Napoli) got 4,5, which is by 50% better than Lazio.

P.P.S. I still believe that YOU believe that Lazio played well last night. :)

Forza Lazio!
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:26 pm

first of all , i really wanna say sorry for my bad English Crying or Very sad i really want to participate more in this forum , but my english is not good (yet)

about yesterday's game against milan , i think some of our player showed an improvement on their ability . we can see muslera , meghni , lollo . they really showed their improvement on their performance ,, and also their confidence . yesterday's muslera was totaly different with last year's muslera . he was really confidence under our goal . also meghni , i was really immpressed with his performance yesterday . he was very determined and also his dribble was faboulus
! but unfortunately , he wasn't fit enough because of his injury . Also de silvestri was really good . i think he could be our leader in couple years to go (hopefully) .

i also want to comment about zarate ,, he was superb as usuall . but , i think he is too selfish . maybe he could learn from meghni , how to control his ego .

i believe we can be revived . i trust in our squad . we need to show our confidence and ability against fiorentina !

do you guys know , who is suspened/injury in our squad ??

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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:27 pm

c. testa wrote:
Forza Lazio wrote:
Magnoem, WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY ARGUE ABOUT IF WE BOTH SEE THE SAME THING, but the only difference is that we express it differently? I think both of us (and many other Laziali as well) agree, that we have very good players and the only change we need is the coach.
And yes, I do hate Rossi because he made my beloved team - S.S.Lazio, feel humiliated not only in Italy,but in Europe.

What regards the support to the team...please, don't confuse me...I love Lazio at least as much as you do. Full stop.

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Delio Rossi took us into Europe in the 1st place..
and if you think we were humiliated check again - our squad earns about 14 million euro a year, up against teams that are worth 100m we have done well

sacking Rossi and bringing in someone who is at best, just as good as Rossi wont suddenly turn us into world beaters.

with the defence we have, we cant do any better. Once Rossi is gone, all that will change is the scapegoat and ppl will find someone else to blame (prolly the new coach).

FFS, instead of saying "Rossi merda, Rossi vattene, Rossi vaffanculo" how bout actually trying to explain how you'd fix our defensive problems and which coach you want and why...
I have said not once that I wanna see Simeone as the coach.

Talking about the defence, I think it's a complex thingy, and now I'll try to explain it.

Yes, that's true that our centre backs (apart from Cribari) are sh*t. Siviglia is not Lazio class,Diakite is extremely inexperienced, and Rozehnal is certainly having not his best season. But apart from that, there is a problem of understanding between the GK (Carrizo) and defenders. Not only that, but also the fact that our players are extremely demotivated. I've never seen such a demotivated Lazio team. The reason being - Delio Rossi. From the way he looks, talks and behaves, from his interviews I can make a clear assumption that this guy is not a leader. And because Lazio doesn't have a charismatic leader on the pitch (Rocchi is not a leader), and because the coach is not a leader as well, we have a serious problem of motivation.

2nd problem again comes from Rossi: because we have a serious problem of motivation, we have a serious problem of understanding and co-operation between players. Yes, there IS a language barrier, but this barrier is not being overcome by Rossi's leadership.

3rd problem is Rossi himself. His tactics very often are senseless, besides all of that, I have never seen Lazio playing a combination or something impressive. Zarate is king and certainly he is a Real Madrid or Man Utd class player. Those blaming Zarate should understand that the reason why Zarate doesn't pass much to the others and play for himself is the fact that Maurito clearly realises that there is no co-operation in the team, hence he doesn't know what to expect from his companions.

With the talents Rossi's got (Carrizo, Muslera, Lichtsteiner, De Silvestri, Diakite, Radu, Kolarov, Meghni, Foggia, Pandev, Zarate, Ledesma, Matuzalem) I am sure that for e.g. Cesare Prandelli would've created an amazing team.
That's why I think we need Simeone, because:

1. He is ambitious.
2. He is young.
3. He is charismatic.
4. He is sick in the head (which means he will beat the sh*t out of Carrizo if he doesn't perform)
5. He is a Laziale.
6. HE IS ARGENTINEAN (which means he will immediatelly cancel out the language barrier for the Spanish speaking and create some co-operation between players).
7. He is a CHAMPION (Estudiantes, River Plate - and that's only as a coach!).

Capito? Did I satisfy your wishes?
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:42 pm

it is all ousmane dabo and meghni fault!!

by the way who was the african player bald that was warming up in the bench. he wasnt too dark?
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:09 pm

and why is dabos and meghni fault? would you explain it us please? Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:07 pm

well, apart from the negative result I could see a hidden light from this milan game... for once after a quite some time Rossi brought on more midfielder, Meghni, Ledesma, Matuzalem and Brocchi, four of they are the real midfielders!! Just like several people here that hating the tridente and three man midfield, so do i... and the 4 midfielders were successful to make us controlling the game in the first half.

we should've scored in the first half and the first milan goal shouldn't be happened if the linesman could see the offside. After the first goal we were getting shaky and after the second we're falling apart... we lost the confidence and Rossi brought simone inzaghi in to rise the confidence and the attack, but unfortunately that wasn't what we need, we totally lost control on the field since meghni was subbed.

The light from the game was indeed the four man midfield (and Muslera performance of course)... matuzalem type of player is the one we missed since a long time, he can dribble, pass, and do tackling really well...


Maybe only God knows what should we do for our defense or maybe a simple confidence and a little more time to practice can do the job.. but I believe that if we stay on this formation the team can finally find the balance... and we can play a beautiful football once more...

BTW, we are not in crisis, we are just too "young". More than half of our players are never playing one full season for lazio.. and they are also really young in the context of age...

So, be patient and be strong LAZIO!!

(I'm glad that if we read on the comments from the players this defeat made them more join and united.. i'm not really expecting anything more from this lazio this season, not even uefa cup place from coppa, i just want them to be hungry of winning and play solid as a team and thus make the whole serie A team are scared of us...)
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PostSubject: Re: Serie A: LAZIO - AC Milan, Sunday 01-02-09   Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:01 pm

Yam wrote:
it is all ousmane dabo and meghni fault!!

by the way who was the african player bald that was warming up in the bench. he wasnt too dark?

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